In this episode I sit down with the insightful and creative, Grant Piering. We discuss his total abandonment of the smartphone, books, personal growth, the environment, new business adventures, fitness and much more.

Please follow the links below for more about what he is up to.

Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/grantpiering/

Website- https://www.grantpiering.com/films

Link to the latest “Light Phone” as mentioned in the episode- https://www.thelightphone.com